Saturday, 27 April 2013
Sale on RTF electric gliders!
Take a look our Inventory section- there's some tasty electric gliders all with big savings and totally brand new! This is a one off opportunity for RTF with the highest specification and all built by ourselves. When the're gone the're gone....
Thursday, 14 February 2013
D130 Continued....
DS certainly promotes a reaction! Those that have tried it have experienced the sheer additive nature of incredible speed and inherent danger involved which leaves others wondering why you ever need to go so fast.
What is also certain is that expense is high, attrition is high and commitment too. The trend for faster planes is to make them bigger. Of course there are exceptions and talent and opportunity with just the right conditions play their part too. However, bigger DS planes are actually easier to fly because you fly a larger circuit and so less load on pilot reaction times for any given speed. They also, quite understandably, become scarier too as the sheer size and weight get's into territories you just would not think a glider should be! After seeing so many 'hits' over Simon Cocker's 'maidening' of his D130, I asked him to tell us mere mortals what his thought were, so far, with this astonishing but admittedly, intimidating machine...
What is also certain is that expense is high, attrition is high and commitment too. The trend for faster planes is to make them bigger. Of course there are exceptions and talent and opportunity with just the right conditions play their part too. However, bigger DS planes are actually easier to fly because you fly a larger circuit and so less load on pilot reaction times for any given speed. They also, quite understandably, become scarier too as the sheer size and weight get's into territories you just would not think a glider should be! After seeing so many 'hits' over Simon Cocker's 'maidening' of his D130, I asked him to tell us mere mortals what his thought were, so far, with this astonishing but admittedly, intimidating machine...
"With a wing loading of 49 oz/sqft the D130 could be construed as a heavy
lead sled. picking up 30 pounds of hewn carbon in the workshop and having that
mass comfortably sitting in one hand felt like picking up a steel dumb bell in
the gym; all that money invested in the airframe appeared crazy; then there was
also the 5 Hitec HT-7990 44Kg torque servos at £100 each..etc. I could at this
point understand why there was a great deal of perceived intimidation from
fellow flying friends. After all, this machine is designed to break 500mph in
the DS zone but by no means break itself in the process.
After five front side flights so far in wind speeds of 25/40 mph on two
different days I can tell you that the D-130 is user friendly to fly and
land.The model carries energy in a rather unique way and sure covers a whole lot
of sky in all axis. The Long Mynd has been used so far but the Great Orme is
next for front side sessions.
I have a sport/front side and DS setting but look forward to switching into
the latter mode when winds onto Rushup Edge will allow.
The D130 is perfect for this re known DS site being of a size where really
large circuits can be carved and still have a very safe visual lock on the
beast.
I am not rushing out there, hell bent on busting any speed records,I am
addicted to the DS adrenalin rush however. After three years of DSing various
types of models including a 5m span all carbon Pilatus B-4 I was ready to go for
another quite big "Propppaa" one, & as I have always proported "Bigger is
better"...this notion has proved to be very much the case.
Safety is a most prevalent and ever present issue with this style of flying
and I noticed the BARCS chatter which has rightly raised this point once more.
We will Police this far more strictly and keep everyone out of harms way. I am
very mindful of the potential danger and with our DS friends ensure appropriate
steps are in place during all DS activity.
Joe Manor by the way makes a fantastically strong model which assembles in
very short order,nice job Joe,thankyou."
Monday, 11 February 2013
Dynamic D130
Simon adding some scale to this colossus of a DS machine! |
Friday, 8 February 2013
Tiny pushrods- New Product
We've been getting a lot of call for our hardware especially the M2 303 grade stainless steel pushrods but sometimes you just need a tiny pushrod and even 2 clevises
butted up against each other are too long!
Teeny pushrods! |
A threaded studding is required and strong ones are hard to find. We had these made at 12mm L, which incidentally will take all the threads of stock MPX M2 clevises butted end to end.
RDH adapter to clevis |
Clevis to clevis |
Like all our pushrods this is made from 303 grade stainless steel and fit all M2 hardware saving you the hassle of cutting up threaded pushrods, M2 bolts or threading your own (yep, been there too!). Handy bag of 4 for £3.
In use on Schwing tail servo install with ball link, RDH adapter and bearing kit, so this one had the works! |
Wednesday, 6 February 2013
Aresti takes first place in TOSS slope aerobatics contest!
Yes it surprised us too since the production Aresti is still
in mould stage! Details can be found here in Steve Lange’s wonderful website
dedicated to slope aerobatics http://www.slopeaerobatics.com/2013/01/30/scratchbuilt-aresti-takes-1st-place-in-toss-slope-aerobatics-contest
Video of Aresti flying
Hans Van Kamp of South Africa
scratch built the Aresti from James Hammond’s drawings at 2.65m span and with
Louis Genade at the sticks won the 5th Annual Two Oceans Slope
Soarers aerobatic contest. Well done guys, you’ve done us proud! This is really
encouraging for the new Aresti design with this little international collaboration.
I better get back to the epoxy fumes and get our Aresti prototypes
made!
Monday, 10 December 2012
28mm can inrunners with gearbox for Gliders
We have so many
request for information about our motor project for gliders I thought I’d put up
the latest information here.
Even if you know your Kv from your C ratings, gliders are a special case for E power.
There is a very simple reason for this- they are skinny and the perfect power
set up might not fit the beautiful slim fuse you wanted it for despite pouring
over Ecalcs to design your perfect set up!
Reisenuaer Gearbox and Leopard Motor |
The realisation that
most glider folk venturing into E power want predominantly a get up system but
soon discover if that takes 20 to 30s it’s very disappointing especially if you
want more than say 5-6 climb outs. Then lower power isn't that light as you need lipos big enough to run a motor for
around 3 mins.
That was really the
only way at one time but lipos are getting so good now it's even less of a reason to do it this way, especially in a top of the line F3F/B type 3m. Fast climbs above 30m per
second with 8 second or less climbs to 250m and less than a minute motor run
times in total; a third of the capacity is required compared to the slow climb. This is a better light weight strategy.
A third smaller lipos is a significant reduction in the overall weight and
space needed for your glider power set up and more than makes up for a bigger
more powerful motor. In any case it’s a
lot more fun this way and a great excuse to make your electric glider exciting!
So a reasonably
powerful motor can be the basis of electric glider power set ups but we still
come back to the space restrictions with gliders. Small is easy but powerful,
light and efficient is harder to find. There are a number of 28mm
diameter motors both in runner and out runners using gearboxes for gliders.
Efficiency for these is good up to about 700w or so but generally best around
the 500w level. So if diameter is restricted then bigger can only mean longer. Long case motors with bigger magnets and stators is rare.
This is 4s motor |
Shafts now made with 3.17mm dia. |
Cooling holes front and rear plate |
We have been working
with a motor manufacturer to produce in runners based on 28mm diameter and 64mm
can lengths. These are longer than the average and have now been especially
made for us with 3.17mm output shafts. This has allowed us to up the gear ratio
to 5:1 using top quality Reisenuaer gearboxes allowing larger more efficient
props to be used. They are more powerful than most 28mm diameter motors
available and high quality 4 pole motors.
The combination is
expected to retail at £163 which is with the gearbox installed and tested
in our workshops.
The motors are made by
Leopard Hobby, who sell motors in their own brand and OEM high quality brands.
They are gaining a great reputation in the electric RC boat and car market and
now helping us develope motors for our gliders.
Motors alone weigh
180g and with Micro Edition 5:1 Reisenuaer gearbox fully assembled with adaptor
flange, approx 210g.
Although we will
introduce different Kv motors to suit 3s and 6s (and 5s), the 4s set up gives
the broadest applications and a good compromise with efficiency and power. In
this way upping the power with higher voltage using different Kv motors is not
only efficient use of power but also keeps the cost of Esc reasonable as 100a
is all you really need. This can support a 2Kw system on 6s. The difference in
cost between a 100a esc and 150a or 200a+ doubles and triples! So if you want
to run at the top end of these motors in terms of power go 6s and at the bottom
range then 3s. The cost of the motor and esc is the same.
We tested the 4s motor
(2730Kv) on our New Air One electric previously motored with a Hacker B50 12s
geared with approx 1kw output (not static input, which overstates the real
situation!) in the air. The new motor on 17x13 gave the same power
(approx 1050w) but weighs 50g less. The lightest we fly this is 2.3kg using the
new motor and 4s TP 1300mah 65c. The non electric glider is 2.2kg empty. The
difference in weight is getting tiny!
Reisenuaer Micro Edition planetary gearbox, absolute top quality engineering. |
Of course a smaller,
lighter plane like the upcoming Schwing electric is going to be pretty outrageous
with this motor and you can be certain our prototypes will be using them.
Electric gliders are
getting more popular. A powerful lightweight system isn’t wildly expensive not
compared to a high power competition F5B electric set up. Anything previously
from about 1kw to 2kw+ was heading that way if indeed it would fit in a skinny
glider but with these new motors and gearboxes from Sloperacer are great value
and will open up the opportunity for more electric gliders which are light and
yet still have hotliner performance (some say a hotliner needs a minimum of just
150w per lb which these motors can provide). They will also allow many more glider conversions especially for F3B electric planes when skinny and around 1kw are the main requirements. Of course many manufacturer’s dedicated electric gliders can be powered too especially ones designed around 28mm diameter cans. You might not have thought you
would need this much power and even the purists who never thought they would
ever have an electric plane seem to be impressed by our test models, especially
after they see the climb rate and then pick up the planes and see how light
they are!
Saturday, 17 November 2012
Electric Schwing Development
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Schwing electric is sleek but not made for just E soaring! |
Milling on the Schwing electric is about to start but I just
couldn’t help sharing the development that’s gone into this project so far.
The electric fuse will be fully interchangeable with the
glider version which meant quite a design challenge to keep within the wing
root spacing and still have a decent power set up.
In the end we managed up to 6s capability using 28mm
diameter motors. So this will cover 500w with a 28mm outrunner on 3s or up to
around 2.5kw on 6s!
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Design specification was for up to 6s! Here we configure 3 x 3s packs to check the spacings. |
Following on from power train tests we have been doing for
F3B electric we’ve been looking into the motors too using a geared 28mm diameter
in runner to give high efficiency up to around 1.3kw and lower. They are 64mm
long and a bit bigger than most geared motors you can find. These will run with
more power and cooler. It’s just simple physics, the bigger the motor the
bigger the magnets and the bigger the stators and more efficiently it will run
at the same power level. One of these with the right KV, gearbox and prop will
give bursts well over 2kw on 6s, which should be quite an outrageous hotliner
with the sleek, clean Schwing airframe!
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Cone design with integral battery tray |
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Fuse has air exits moulded in |
Bigger makes all the difference- stock Hacker geared B40L, 58mm long motor and our test with a 64mm long can using a Reisenauer gear box |
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Prototypes to be made at the Sloperacer workshops and just can't wait to fly one of these! |
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